Comments on: Outcomes of the Civil War http://www.thehistoryguru.com/outcomes-of-the-civil-war/ Taking History from the Elites and Giving it to the Masses Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:37:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: auto repair reno http://www.thehistoryguru.com/outcomes-of-the-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-499 auto repair reno Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:06:11 +0000 http://thehistoryguru.com/2008/02/04/outcomes-of-the-civil-war/#comment-499 I do accept as true with all of the concepts you have introduced in your post. They are very convincing and can definitely work. Nonetheless, the posts are very quick for novices. May just you please lengthen them a bit from subsequent time? Thanks for the post. I do accept as true with all of the concepts you have introduced in your post. They are very convincing and can definitely work. Nonetheless, the posts are very quick for novices. May just you please lengthen them a bit from subsequent time? Thanks for the post.

]]> By: mark http://www.thehistoryguru.com/outcomes-of-the-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-102 mark Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:31:40 +0000 http://thehistoryguru.com/2008/02/04/outcomes-of-the-civil-war/#comment-102 You need to do a lot more reading on the consequences of the Civil War. Prior to that war, the word United States was a plural noun. In other words, the United States was simply a collection of states not unlike the current EU is a collection of states. After that war we were one nation. This alone is a breathtaking change. Secondly, prior to the Civil War, our constitution was accepted as a tool that enshrined the rights of white male property owners. Much of the Constitution did not apply to common Americans, unless you owned property. This is one of the most significant reasons the Gettysburg Address is now considered such a phenomenal document. That speech accelerated the notion that the liberties guaranteed in the Constitution did not just apply to the propertied, but to ALL of us. A second breathtaking achievement of that war, though maybe it's more an achievement of Lincolns. 3rd, the eradication of racism in America was accelerating during the 1860s-70s but collapsed with the end of Reconstruction. Then with the election of Woodrow Wilson, racism came back with a vengeance. Although it is certainly true that you cannot end racism by fiat, fiat can begin the process. I was against Obama in the last election because I felt no way would a Black man win in this country. But when he won the WHITE MALE vote in the South Carolina primary, I stopped sending money to Hillary and started sending it to Obama. There is no doubt in my mind that the "fiats" passed to end racism in the 1960s led directly to the change in hearts that resulted in Obama becoming President. There is no doubt in my mind therefore, that had Reconstruction lasted another 15 years, and had Wilson never been elected President, (or had his heart been different) the election of a black man President could have happened 50 years earlier than it did. Your quote: "It would take Republicans almost an entire century to pass a Civil Rights Act implementing these ideas." LBJ got that passed, over the objections of Republicans and racist southern Democrats. Indeed, most of those Racist Southern Democrats eventually changed parties to become Republican. Nixon became president using the now famous "Southern Strategy" to use racism as a tool to elect even more Republicans. (A strategy in no small part attributable to Roger Ailes, the current head of Faux News. Ailes was at the time -- as he is today -- one of the major players in using "dirty tricks" to get Republicans elected.) You need to do a lot more reading on the consequences of the Civil War. Prior to that war, the word United States was a plural noun. In other words, the United States was simply a collection of states not unlike the current EU is a collection of states. After that war we were one nation. This alone is a breathtaking change.

Secondly, prior to the Civil War, our constitution was accepted as a tool that enshrined the rights of white male property owners. Much of the Constitution did not apply to common Americans, unless you owned property. This is one of the most significant reasons the Gettysburg Address is now considered such a phenomenal document. That speech accelerated the notion that the liberties guaranteed in the Constitution did not just apply to the propertied, but to ALL of us. A second breathtaking achievement of that war, though maybe it’s more an achievement of Lincolns.

3rd, the eradication of racism in America was accelerating during the 1860s-70s but collapsed with the end of Reconstruction. Then with the election of Woodrow Wilson, racism came back with a vengeance. Although it is certainly true that you cannot end racism by fiat, fiat can begin the process. I was against Obama in the last election because I felt no way would a Black man win in this country. But when he won the WHITE MALE vote in the South Carolina primary, I stopped sending money to Hillary and started sending it to Obama. There is no doubt in my mind that the “fiats” passed to end racism in the 1960s led directly to the change in hearts that resulted in Obama becoming President. There is no doubt in my mind therefore, that had Reconstruction lasted another 15 years, and had Wilson never been elected President, (or had his heart been different) the election of a black man President could have happened 50 years earlier than it did.

Your quote:
“It would take Republicans almost an entire century to pass a Civil Rights Act implementing these ideas.”
LBJ got that passed, over the objections of Republicans and racist southern Democrats. Indeed, most of those Racist Southern Democrats eventually changed parties to become Republican. Nixon became president using the now famous “Southern Strategy” to use racism as a tool to elect even more Republicans. (A strategy in no small part attributable to Roger Ailes, the current head of Faux News. Ailes was at the time — as he is today — one of the major players in using “dirty tricks” to get Republicans elected.)

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